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Due to processing by IBM, this request was reassigned to have the following updated attributes:
Brand - Servers and Systems Software
Product family - Transaction Processing
Product - CICS Transaction Server
For recording keeping, the previous attributes were:
Brand - WebSphere
Product family - Transaction Processing
Product - CICS Transaction Server
Dear IBM,
Thank you for your responses and information. I appreciate it.
Thanks,
Tim
We are aware of the overhead of copying data, and there may be ways to address this moving forward. However we have no plans to change data tables in the way suggested.
CICS TS 5.1 will support EXEC CICS LINK from a COBOL 31 bit program to an amode 64 non le assembler program. Native call is not supported. In the future when we support LE supported languages, that will not support 31 to 64 via CALL. LE will not be supporting mixed amode.
The FILEA assembler sample has been converted to run amode 64 giving an example of using relative addressing and the grande form of assembler instructions required. However it is not using GETMAIN64.
I did have one other follow up to the GETMAIN64/FREEMAIN64 suggestion for caching large amounts of data. I would assume with this approach we would still be duplicating the data in physical storage? In other words, if I have 4K of data at virtual address 3C450010 that is backed by a physical storage frame at 239E0020 and I do this GETMAIN64 and get an 8 byte pointer and move this 4K of data to that 8 byte pointer, it will be moved to another physical storage frame? So I will have the same data duplicated at physical address 239E0020 and another physical storage frame?
If so, this is not really getting at the crux of this RFE. This RFE is asking for the ability to not incur the wall time/CPU time of moving the data from one storage frame to another when you really just want to cache the data and come back to it in another CICS task. This RFE is requesting if there is a way (specifically with the CICS data table use case) where just the virtual page tables for the data space can be updated to reuse the physical storage frames being referenced in the write and the result is new physical storage frames do not need to be allocated and populated when the data is cached. If we were to go with the GETMAIN64/FREEMAIN64 approach, we would still want something like this so the overhead of duplicating physical storage frames and populating them is not occurring. If I am not being clear, please let me know.
Thanks,
Tim
Hello,
Yes, this is a possibility. It would require more development time on our part to write assembler code to put the storage above the bar. The advantage of using the extended addressability of the data spaces for a CICS data table is that we are already using a data table in our application for storing "cookies" to this session data. So it is not much more of a development effort to leverage this data table approach to store the raw session data.
Would you have any assembler sample code for using this GETMAIN64 and FREEMAIN64 approach? And I assume a COBOL/LE 31 bit program could call this assembler 64 bit module?
Thanks,
Tim
A more immediate solution might be to use the new functionality in CICS TS 5.1 which will GA December 14th 2012. The release includes new functionality to run non-LE assembler programs amode 64 and use new CICS API: GETMAIN64 and FREEMAIN64 to acquire 64 bit storage. This functionality is aimed a precisely this use case, to be able to write assembler routines to cache large amounts of data above the bar. Is this a possibility for you ?