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Status Delivered
Categories Runtime
Created by Guest
Created on Mar 6, 2018

Make job output switchable

Due to modern availability requirements of applications, more and more CICS regions have to run 24/7. The job output does dramatically increase and the amount of required JES spool space dramatically increases.
Nearly every customer has this problem and created his own solution to switch and free output of long running CICS regions. Some solutions use first character as ASA control character, some solutions defines several DD statements and switch the TD-Queue. The usage of ASA control characters has the disadvantage that archive tools interpret these charactes as well and first character in CICS output is not displayed. The usage of serveral DD statements has the disadvantage that you need to define as many DD statement as number of days you like to keep the CICS active.
What's been needed is a common solution which should be provided by IBM.

Idea priority High
  • Guest
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    Jun 17, 2022
    Support for this is also provided in CICS TS 6.1 which is generally available from 17th June 2022.

    For more information see https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/cics-ts/6.1?topic=whats-new
  • Guest
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    Apr 5, 2022
    Documentation is also provided in CICS TS 6.1 which is announced today April 5th and will GA June 17th 2022.

    See Announcement letter https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/2/897/ENUS222-092/index.html&request_locale=en
  • Guest
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    Nov 15, 2020

    The Administering output from a CICS region topic in the CICS Knowledge Centers for releases 5.2 to 5.6 has been updated with guidance on how to spin off output datasets. Here is the 5.6 version https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGMCP_5.6.0/administering/admin-region-output.html

  • Guest
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    Aug 3, 2020

    This is something we would like to address in the form of additional documentation and guidance. The RFE is being moved into 'Planned for Future release' status. Please note:
    IBM’s statements regarding its plans, directions, and intent are subject to change or withdrawal without notice at IBM’s sole discretion. Information regarding potential future products is intended to outline our general product direction and it should not be relied on in making a purchasing decision. The information mentioned regarding potential future products is not a commitment, promise, or legal obligation to deliver any material, code or functionality. Information about potential future products may not be incorporated into any contract. The development, release, and timing of any future features or functionality described for our products remains at our sole discretion.

  • Guest
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    Mar 7, 2018

    The original requester and other comments have mentioned several techniques that sites have used. I recall another where a dynamic allocation product was used and the TD queue was defined as a GDG dataset.

    I concur with the idea that a CICS-architected solution would be beneficial. A command to invoke the switch could satisfy both on-demand needs and routine (e.g. time-of-day) needs with auto operation tool.

  • Guest
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    Mar 7, 2018

    Since we migrated from JES3 to JES2 we use the SPIN function. It allows us to SPIN the sysout file dynamically and requires no changes in the CICS configuration. We then archive the output in our archive product (BETA92).

    Example :

    //CEEMSG DD SYSOUT=*,SPIN=(UNALLOC,2M)

  • Guest
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    Mar 6, 2018

    For output extrapartition TD queues, this can generally be handled via dynamic allocation (by specifying a SYSOUTCLASS and omitting the DD statement from the startup JCL); a periodic transaction could then close/open each relevant TD queue to "spin" the output and allocate a fresh instance. For the JES allocated sysout, this gets more involved, and is where addition of CICS-driven spin controls would be most useful.