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Status Future consideration
Workspace IBM Z System Automation
Created by Guest
Created on Jul 9, 2013

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SYSTEM AUTOMATION TO BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN PARENT TASKS THAT START A CHILD TASK WITH THE SAME NAME

There are applications should as WebSphere Message Broker (WMB) and Control-O, where the applications starts multiple secondary tasks with the same name, but different step name. This makes is difficult for automation to monitor and manage.

Automation could either enhance the existing INGPJMON or write a new monitor that will identify where a parent starts children with the same name and differentiates by ASID and stepname. Maybe the spawned children could even be defined to SA, using their jobname, but with a special stepname qualifier.

Idea priority High
  • Guest
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    |     Sep 19, 2022

    We are experiencing the same issues as we also use the IBM Integration Bus Broker. As mentioned this setup has one Broker STC. And the broker will start 1 or (many) more execution group STC's.

    We also wrote our own monitor routine which works fine until you stop/start the SA agent. After that SA does no longer know the address space id. When one of the child subsystems is then stopped/started SA wlil erroneously update de status of the Broker as it cannot compare the ASID.


  • Guest
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    |     Jun 19, 2015

    Due to processing by IBM, this request was reassigned to have the following updated attributes:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - zSeries Software
    Product - Tivoli System Automation for z/OS (SA z/OS)

    For recording keeping, the previous attributes were:
    Brand - Tivoli
    Product family - Automation
    Product - Tivoli System Automation for z/OS (SA z/OS)

  • Guest
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    |     Nov 26, 2014

    In my view, you should be able to pass SA the stepname. So, using the example below, SA could simply issue an MVS D A,BPD1.BPD1 or MVS D A,BPD1.TMEBS01 to differentiate between the two address spaces shown.

  • Guest
    Reply
    |     Nov 26, 2014

    IEE115I 13.15.40 2014.330 ACTIVITY 535
    JOBS M/S TS USERS SYSAS INITS ACTIVE/MAX VTAM OAS
    00005 00115 00010 00057 00416 00007/00500 00093
    BPD1 BPD1 BROKER IN SO A=0269 PER=NO SMC=000
    PGN=N/A DMN=N/A AFF=NONE
    CT=248.893S ET=00108.23
    WUID=S0107082 USERID=BPD1
    WKL=WKLDSTC SCL=S3V60STD P=1
    RGP=N/A SRVR=NO QSC=NO
    ADDR SPACE ASTE=0F3EFA40
    BPD1 TMEBS01 EGNOENV IN *O A=0243 PER=NO SMC=000
    PGN=N/A DMN=N/A AFF=NONE
    CT=431.924S ET=00108.23
    WUID=S0107104 USERID=BPD1
    WKL=WKLDSTC SCL=S3V60STD P=1
    RGP=N/A SRVR=NO QSC=NO
    ADDR SPACE ASTE=0F3EF0C0

  • Guest
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    |     Nov 28, 2013

    Hello Stephen,
    thanks for sending us this requirement. As per my last update, we see this requirement as a candidate for a future release.
    Today, we discussed your RFE in more detail. Some questions came up where I need your help.
    Will you be able to issue a D A,L command in order to list the WMB and Control-O address spaces and send us the output?
    Just to avoid confusion about the identifier and step name, could you please mark that data in the output which should be used by SA for monitoring and managing?
    Thanks for your help!
    Best Regards,
    Raimund Thielker
    (SA zOS Development)

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