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Status Not under consideration
Categories z/TPF
Created by Guest
Created on May 4, 2018

SACK support on zTPF

Support TCP Selective Acknowledgement option (SACK)

Idea priority Low
  • Guest
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    Jul 2, 2018

    The z/TPF system today does not necessarily "flood" the network with retransmits. In the case of large window sends, most times lost packets are detected with fast retransmission (duplicate ACKs being received from remote end) asking for the same packet over and over. In this case, TPF retransmits the packet requested, plus any additional packets sent in the same OSA write buffer. So, generally we would only be retransmitting a handful of packets.

    The belief is SACK support can help in some cases, but can also hurt in others. The cost and risk of implementing SACK on TPF is high, and the thought is the reward is minimal as a network that is suffering will continue to suffer with or without SACK support enabled. The retransmitted packets when an event occurs are negligible compared to overall throughput of packets coming from TPF so we believe SACK would provide little to no value.

    Because the RFE was opened with a low priority and this will take months of effort and it is not clear whether this will truly help throughput during networking events, we are going to reject this RFE.

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  • Guest
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    Jun 14, 2018

    Ideally both would be nice, with SACK being controlled on socket creation by some parm (IOCTL?) but if TPF responded to selective ACKs by retransmitting only the packets asked for (#2) that would help considerably.

    We have processes where TPF does most of the sending and if it has to retransmit all the packets, especially over long distances the data begins to queue up.

  • Guest
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    Jun 12, 2018

    Selective Acknowledgments is a negotiated option on the TCP handshake. If TPF were to add support for this, which pieces of support for TPF would be required:
    1. TPF sending selective ACKs outbound, to minimize the amount of retransmitted packets from the remote side?
    2. TPF responding to selective ACKs by retransmitting only the packets asked for by the remote side
    3. Or would both be required.

    Selective activation is a fairly significant effort. What problem are we trying to solve with SACK? If the number of retransmits is very low, the impact of implementing SACK on z/TPF would have little to no value.